Saturday, February 26, 2011

SCEA Management Quotes

Jack Tretton
In 2007, when asked "Why not have some homebrew game support?", he replied
"I think that is something that is in the works. We certainly see some of the stuff that has been done via homebrew, and it's incredibly creative. And I think we'd like to try and tap into that a little bit more."

Bret Mogilefsky
In 2011, Bret is making declarations to support the SCEA side of the case. But back in 2000, he saw the truth. He supported DeCSS by adding a banner to his personal website. The banner links to a site saying "I've been really mad about the recent spate of horrible witch hunts by the MPAA against people who use, distribute, or even LINK TO sites that distribute DeCSS, a piece of software used for playing DVDs on Linux."

Geoff Levand
On February 10, 2010, after all my hypervisor work had been released, Geoff says, and I quote "Please be assured that SCE is committed to continue the support for previously sold models that have the "Install Other OS" feature and that this feature will not be disabled in future firmware releases." What happened?

Kaz Hirai
"RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIDGE RAAACER!"

I bet Ken Kutaragi wouldn't stand for any of this nonsense. Source: Jack Bret Geoff Kaz

29 Comments:

Blogger shentino said...

You and the OtherOS class action people should get in touch.

February 26, 2011 at 8:44 PM  
Blogger Clayton Braasch said...

It was probably just corporate fodder meant to feed and satisfy their unhappy consumers. Maybe a promise of homebrew and Linux support was an attempt to keep people from hacking the console in order to enable these things (I mean, it's not like that would EVER happen, right?).

February 26, 2011 at 8:46 PM  
Blogger fair play said...

Geohot: Hero or Zero

With Geohot facing legal action, the big question is whether his actions were justified or just downright negative towards the gaming industry.

Geohot started of “jailbreaking” iPhones in order to allow users to load custom software along with illegal apps. Also, it allowed folks to unlock their iPhone and use it out of the approved countries. Most users were actually happy about this because they would not have to pay for apps, and those living in non-approved countries were able to use it on other mobile networks without problem. Even though Apple tried to sue the failOverFlow team, they won on the grounds of “Fair Use” which says that devices can be modified once it is used for personal use and not sold or distributed to others.

Now Geohot and his team broke the PlayStation 3′s root encryption key, allowing for them to load in custom software to play modified (cracked) versions of games and DVDs.

PS3 fans were visibly upset with the situation because it meant the games they knew and loved were now at risk of being cracked, and as a result can affect online gameplay as well. To prove the point, Call of Doody: Modern Warfare 2 was recently shredded to pieces allowing hackers to change prestige and rank scores, use aimbots and other sneaky hacks.it really is a pain trying to play a game fairly when someone else uses hacks to easy rake up points.

February 26, 2011 at 8:49 PM  
Blogger Xavis75211 said...

CoD4 have been hacked long before anything came out. geohot's firmware did not aloow pirated games. cheating, yes cause, if you load homebrew, you can load a cheating program, sure. BUT you cant blame everything solely on him, and you need to shut up and look at the others in the development. other people added in ISO support and other people made cheats and made hacks. geohot....no. just cause hes getting sued, and just cause sony spews random bullshit points, dont make it his responsibility. the actions of one does not hold up to his power, nor jurisdiction. all he can do is discourage, he cant force. neither can sony, but they think they can, which is the main case in the matter.

get what im saying?

February 26, 2011 at 9:29 PM  
Blogger fair play said...

The initial hack was revealed at the so called “Chaos Communication Congress” by a group calling themselves “fail0verflow”, who had previously hacked the Wii. The hack was then distributed by George “GeoHot” Hotz, who was responsible for a lot of the security subversions that resulted in the removal of Other OS in the first place. Since the proliferation of the private key, applications that allow users to play pirated games, delete the information of Modern Warfare players, and unlock trophies for free, aimbots and other cheats have been released. Both failoverflow and GeoHot have said that they don’t condone piracy, but it’s pretty clear that their hacks are primarily used towards those ends.

February 26, 2011 at 10:48 PM  
Blogger Jonathan Seals said...

People who bitch at GeoHot for "HACKING MY MW2 EVEN THOUGH MOST PEOPLE ARE JUST PLAYING THE GAME AND I CAN'T ACCEPT THE FACT THAT I SUCK!!! AHHH!!!!" don't deserve computers, or basic knowledge of devs and dev teams.

February 26, 2011 at 11:22 PM  
Blogger Xavis75211 said...

look, if a dude wants to pirate, bitch at him. if a dude wants to legally back up his disk and play that, what will you do? if a dude wants to use a harmful cheat, bith at him. if a dude wants to use a mod code like say, full steady sniper, or a third person view point(cam mod) what will you do? fave the truth, you're bitching cause you just a troll.

February 26, 2011 at 11:36 PM  
Blogger Xavis75211 said...

man lots of typos. i was on my ipod. so sorry about that.

February 26, 2011 at 11:40 PM  
OpenID Andres Berrondo said...

I feel like you have taken something way out of proportion, fairplay. Those quotes above prove that Sony wanted to have homebrew support on the Playstation 3. So, when someone (Hotz) actually found a way to make that happen they didn't like the way it was done. Hotz is giving you the opportunity to use the PS3 for good or for evil and most people choose evil. I don't see him creating any applications which defy Sony or Apple. He hasn't made any attempts at bringing corporations down on their work. Teams have been hacking into systems since the dawn of the CD drives. Modchips are sold and no company says anything about that matter. Don't be ridiculous on your justification of a fixed game that people cheat on. People cheat on games for the Xbox 360 and eventually they get banned and/or their Gamerscore dropped to zero. I think Sony is upset that their encryption key was given out to the public. That may be challenged as intellectual property, but I still don't see Hotz as the bad guy. You can go anywhere online or watch a couple of movies to find out how to make explosives. In the end, who do we blame?

February 26, 2011 at 11:42 PM  
Blogger retroactive said...

The DeCSS quote is f*cking hilarious man. Hypocrisy oh the hypocrisy. Great post, it made me chuckle.

February 26, 2011 at 11:59 PM  
Blogger Parth6512 said...

I think Sony should just get a stick and shove it up their butthol3. Instead of wasting money on lawyers, why not invest this money to fix the security on the future console so $hit like this doesn't happen in the first place.

February 27, 2011 at 12:20 AM  
Blogger fair play said...

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February 27, 2011 at 12:41 AM  
Blogger hermann said...

Sony’s War on Makers, Hackers, and Innovators


http://www.linuxeserver.org/?p=78

February 27, 2011 at 7:16 AM  
Blogger The Pirate Kid said...

Corporations like Sony will never cease to amaze me in the way that they think. The fundamental reason things like this happen is because they don't understand hackers needs. There are two approaches to dealing with hackers and two mega corporations have taken these two approaches.

For example when Sony created the PS3 it was hail as one of the most amazing platforms of its times, and it remained that way until it got hacked to which Sony took the approach to ban and try to stop hacks, whereas Microsoft must of keenly observed this when they were developing "Project Netal" now known as the Kinect and they thought that instead of fighting hackers they said let their imagination thrive on this revolutionary device, this is precisely the reason why there aren't any DRM on the Kinect. That is the reason why microsoft is about to release a SDK for the Kinect. They want to develop beyond the measured they had ever thought could be possible. This can be said for Windows Phone OS.

Sony just note one thing "Devices in lockdown isn't the way of the future" Microsoft figured it out why can't you?

February 27, 2011 at 8:05 AM  
Blogger שראל said...

George what I say Sony just "smart" They just demand you what they think they will sell every game at 350 NIS and we keep quiet the same thing with the PS2 called out a hack to publish games for him now that Sony just wants to gradually discontinue the production and make games for PS2 we need money to buy PS3 you know but now you come ruined it because they now also publish games for PS3 and that George I'm proud of you and love you have ruined this show
To make us money George I need to talk to you privately about something important please contact me in one of the mail
eldad801@walla.com or sarel3739@gmail.com or answer me here post Okay thanks and love dear brother

February 27, 2011 at 8:14 AM  
Blogger Kreationz said...

One more example of Sony trying to silence free speech, this time a press news outlet. Geohot, you should talk to these guys and at least give them an interview or something. http://ps3mfw.com/?p=300

February 27, 2011 at 10:01 AM  
Blogger iPSad said...

Hi Geohot!
Please Hack Xbox 360 Slim

We Need Xbox Jailbreak or CFW :)

February 27, 2011 at 10:01 AM  
Blogger hermann said...

BBC News - Do you own the gadgets you buy?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/click_online/9406690.stm

February 27, 2011 at 10:27 AM  
Blogger jamie.turbill said...

Gehot it looks like BBC have listened to your pleas to the media, http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/click_online/9406690.stm

just thought, do you know about the horror at which sony ericsson has been treating people with the 2010 xperias. And can you clarify if when you hack the xperia play, will it involve the bootloader?, and if so is the bootloader basically the same as the x10 meaning that could be hacked as well.

February 27, 2011 at 12:15 PM  
Blogger rogerdodger91 said...

UH OH GEOHOT BE CAREFUL! THEIR QUOTES ARE PROTECTED BY THE DMCA AS "INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY"!!!! i wouldnt be surprised if they try to use that against you in their TOS too. I bet it says somewhere that you cant make them look bad. I know facebook has it in their tos.

February 27, 2011 at 1:18 PM  
Blogger Maison Looi said...

Jack Tretton
In 2007, when asked "Why not have some homebrew game support?", he replied
"I think that is something that is in the works. We certainly see some of the stuff that has been done via homebrew, and it's incredibly creative. And I think we'd like to try and tap into that a little bit more."

For some reason, I recall this being said...

February 27, 2011 at 1:36 PM  
Blogger stevespy said...

They are doing same thing to small companies in the UK. This one has listed and interesting defense. The OtherOS removal and Manufacture defects, apparently the Jailbreak can fix a few major defects on the PS3.
http://www.playbackups.com/ps3-jailbreak-modchip-news-manchester.html

February 27, 2011 at 4:04 PM  
Blogger haftwo said...

Here's an interesting blog on Sony..... on another note I worked for them for about a year and hated every minute. At the induction day I was asked by our Japanese director what my thoughts were on "your country bombing Japan in WW2"...... WTF (I'm Australian and you guys where bombing us but hey, no biggy)

http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2011/02/sonys-war-on-makers-hackers-and-innovators.html

February 27, 2011 at 5:50 PM  
Blogger JR said...

> On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 09:58 -0700, geoffrey.levand at am.sony.com wrote:
>> The feature of "Install Other OS" was removed from the new
>> "Slim" PS3 model to focus on delivering games and other
>> entertainment content.
>>
>> Please be assured that SCE is committed to continue
>> the support for previously sold models that have the
>> "Install Other OS" feature and that this feature will
>> not be disabled in future firmware releases.
>
> Although it's disappointing that Sony have removed the feature from new
> models, It's good to have this public assurance from Sony that at least
> the feature won't be removed from older models which are already
> working.

Please understand that in my position as PS3-Linux maintainer
I can really only provide users with technical support for
Linux and the LV1 hcall interface.

The text above was provided to me by SCE management. If
you have any questions regarding it or any other feature
of the PS3 please contact the Playstation Customer Support
in your country. Using Playstation Customer Support will
insure your inquiry is processed through the correct
channels within SCE.

-Geoff

February 28, 2011 at 11:55 AM  
Blogger JR said...

On 02/08/2010 05:21 PM, Akos Marton wrote:
> Hello List,
>
> I was reading a thread, after I was checking the new PS3 slim model's
> properties. I found some bad news about this, I think many of us already
> knows this difficulty.

The feature of "Install Other OS" was removed from the new
"Slim" PS3 model to focus on delivering games and other
entertainment content.

Please be assured that SCE is committed to continue
the support for previously sold models that have the
"Install Other OS" feature and that this feature will
not be disabled in future firmware releases.

-Geoff

February 28, 2011 at 12:02 PM  
Blogger gzorin said...

One more...

February 28, 2011 at 5:54 PM  
Blogger w_gary said...

U sank my
00000369 00000373 00005F05 00005E3E 0000C77D 0000C77D 00007951 00007837 0000B124 0000AE7D

Private Key :(
Found em nice shoot george :D
But you are a good hider man.
i give u dubz ^_^

March 1, 2011 at 11:44 AM  
Blogger zefie said...

Bret's address is bret_mogilefsky@playstation.sony.com .. I've actually spoken to him on many occasions in the past, including bug reports and feature proposals (such as "Reset Game" that you now see in the PS Menu).

March 1, 2011 at 10:32 PM  
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